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>>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS ITS VICE-PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE.

THAT ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY.

WE'LL HAVE THE LATEST.

>>> AND ALSO TONIGHT VOLATILITY ON WALL STREET.

WHAT IT MEANS TO THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.

AND WE'LL HEAR ABOUT A UNIQUE WAY TO TREAT CHRONIC JOINT PAIN.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

VICE-PRESIDENT AND DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE KAMALA HARRIS TODAY ANNOUNCED HER CHOICE FOR A RUNNING MATE.

MINNESOTA GOVERNOR TIM WALZ GOT THE NOD, AND HE GOT THE WORD BY WAY OF A PHONE CALL.

>> GOOD MORNING, GOVERNOR.

>> GOOD MORNING, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT.

>> LISTEN, I WANT YOU TO BE DO THIS WITH ME.

LET'S DO THIS TOGETHER.

WOULD YOU BE BY RUNG MATE AND LET'S GET THIS THING ON THE ROAD?

>> I WOULD BE HONORED, MATH MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT THE JOY YOU'RE BRINGING BACK TO THE COUNTRY, THE ENTHUSIASM THAT'S OUT THERE, IT WOULD BE A PRIVILEGE TO TAKE THIS TRIP WITH YOU ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

>> ALSO A FORMER SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER AND HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACH, HE SERVE IN THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD, KNOWN FOR HIS FOLKY STYLE AND A LOW PROFILE GOVERNOR OUTSIDE OF THE MIDWEST UNTIL A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN HE STARTED GOING VIRAL WITH HIS CATCHY ATTACKS OF DONALD TRUMP INCLUDING HIS FOLLOWERS SAYING, QUOTE, HE'S WEIRD.

ARIZONA SENATOR MARK KELLY WHO WAS AMONG THE FINALISTS SAID VICE-PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS AND GOVERNOR TIM WALZ ARE GOING TO MOVE US FORWARD.

THEY'RE ALREADY BUILDING A CAMPAIGN TO UNITE OUR COUNTRY.

KELLY ADDED THAT HE AND HIS WIFE GABBY GIFFORDS ARE, QUOTE, READY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP THEM WIN.

THE SAME THING WAS HEARD FROM OTHER DEMOCRATS.

>> HE COULD HAVE GONE ALL AGGRESSIVE, RIGHT.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE, MARK KELLY, FIGHTER PILOT, ASTRONAUT, SHAPIRO, IN PEOPLE'S FACES, YOU KNOW, REALLY COMING AT HIM.

I THINK SHE WENT FOR MAYBE A LITTLE MORE OF A CUDDLY CHOICE WHERE EVERYBODY FEELS HE'S GONNA LIKE MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL SAFE AND MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION CAN DO AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THE BANG, BANG, BANG ON THE REPUBLICANS.

>> TIM WALZ IS A GENTLEMAN, CONFIDENT, COMMON SENSE, SCHOOL TEACHER, NATIONAL GUARDSMAN, AND SOMEONE WHO JUST IS A DECENT, OUTSTANDING GUY, AND I'M THRILLED FOR HIM.

I'M THRILLED FOR VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIS, AND FRANKLY I'M JUST EXCITED FOR THE COUNTRY.

>> DIFFERENT REACTION FROM REPUBLICANS, INCLUDING THE G.O.P.

VICE-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE J.D.

VANCE.

>> JIM TIM WAWLZ'S RECORD IS A JOKE.

HE'S ONE OF THE FAR LEFT RADICALS IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AT ANY LEVEL, BUT I THINK WHAT TIM WALZ'S SELECTION SAYS IS THAT KAMALA HARRIS HAS SENT THE FEE TO THE FAR LEFT SIDE OF HER PARTY, WHICH IS WHAT SHE ALWAYS DOES.

>> CURRENTLY POLLING IS SUGGESTING THAT THE TWO VICE-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES BOTH HAVE HURDLE TO OVERCOME.

A NEW MPR FINDS THAT WALZ IS LARGELY UNKNOWN WITH 71% OF U.S.

ADULTS HAVING NEVER HEARD OF HIM.

AS FOR VANCE, THE POLL FOUND THAT HE'S FACING AN INCREASINGLY UNFAVORABLE RATING WITH A 43% FINDING OF UNFAVORABLE COMPARED TO A 34% FAVORABLE RATING.

>>> AND ONE MORE HEADLINE, BILL MONGOMERY TODAY DENIED A MOTION TO RECUSE HIMSELF IN THE CASE INVOLVING LANGUAGE USED IN THE ABORTION RIGHTS MEASURE, PROP 139.

THE ACTORS OF THE MEASURE, WANT WALTER MONGOMERY REMOVED ON HIS PREVIOUS RECUSAL IN THE CHALLENGE OF THE STATE'S ONE-TIME ABORTION LAW DATING BACK TO THE 19th CENTURY.

BUT MONGOMERY SAID IF THIS CASE IS DIFFERENT AND HIS PREVIOUS RECUSAL IS NOT RELEVANT, AND ADDED THAT HE INTENDED TO, QUOTE, PERFORM MY DUTIES WITH HONOR AND INTEGRITY AND FIDELITY TO MY OVAL OFFICE.

>> WALL STREET CLOSED HIGHER WITH THE NASDAQ SHOWING A GAIN OF NEARLY 1% AFTER STOCKS WERE HIT HARD BY THREE STRAIGHT DAYS OF LOSSES.

INDEED YESTERDAY WAS THE MARKET'S WORST DAY SINCE 1987.

WHAT'S HAPPENING ON WALL STREETING AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE ECONOMY AS A WHOLE?

FOR THAT WE WELCOME TIM ROUSE FROM ROUSE CONSULTING GROUP.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK.

>> WHY ARE THE MARKETS ACTING LIKE THIS.

>> I THINK PART L PART OF IT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE IN MY PROFESSION, WE'VE BEEN PREDICTING 8 OF THE LAST MANY RECESSIONS.

SO AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO THAT AND PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO LOOK FOR IT.

WE HAD A RELATIVELY WEEK JOBS REPORT THIS PAST WEEK, AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FED REACTING PROPERLY.

BUT IT'S NOT AS BAD AS I THINK IT INITIALLY APPEARED.

IT'S PLAYING OUT A LITTLE BIT LIKE WE EXPECTED.

>> OKAY.

THIS JOBS REPORT OBVIOUSLY SEEMED LIKE IT WAS A CATCH, WE'VE HAD GOOD JOB REPORTS AND BAD JOB REPORTS, WE'VE ALSO SEEN THE MARKET GO WHOOPTY-DOO LIKE THIS ONE.

WHY THE DIFFERENCE.

>> WELL, THE TAIL END OF AN EXPANSION, IF YOU'RE STILL GENERATING ABOUT 200,000 JOBS ACROSS THE NATION A MONTH, THAT'S A SOLID NUMBER.

IF YOU FALL BELOW 100,000, YOU GET INTO THE TERRITORY WHERE MAYBE THERE ARE SOME SIGNS OF A RECESSION.

WE HAD 114,000 AND RUSSELL HAD ANOTHER PRIOR MONTH THAT WERE DOWN TO $108,000.

SO WE'RE HITTING THAT TERRITORY WHERE I START TO PUT MORE WAIT ON THE DROUGHT SUPPORT THAN I NORMALLY WOULD, AND I THINK THAT NUMBER SCARED SOME PEOPLE.

>> THE STOCK MARKET QUESTION, THE TECH STOCKS, THEY RUN UP TOO FAST, TOO MUCH TOO FAST?

>> YES.

BUT IT'S REALLY ACROSS THE BOARD.

EVEN WITH ALL OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAPPENED, JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA RIGHT BEFORE THE SHOW, THE DOW IS STILL UP DOUBLE DIGITS.

S&P, NASDAQ UP OVER 15% COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR.

SO I THINK IT'S MORE OF A CORRECTION.

I THINK IT'S PEOPLE TAKING SOME PROFIT, TRYING TO JUMP IN ON THAT INITIAL SIGNAL THAT MAYBE WE ARE GONNA SLIP, AND THEN WHAT YOU SAW TODAY WAS PEOPLE COMING BACK IN AND SAYING I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DOWNTURN.

I'M GOING TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE I CAN GET SOME GOOD PRICES, AND SO IT GETS KIND OF BACK DOWN TO BASICS SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

>> BUT THESE SELL-OFFS, IF YOU WILL, HOW MUCH DO THEY ACTUALLY IMPACT THE ECONOMY?

>> WELL, THE -- IF PEOPLE ARE NOT WORKING THEY'RE GOING TO CUT BACK ON THE SPENDING AND IT COMES BACK TO THE ECONOMY, IF YOU TAKE THE JOBS REPORT IN COMBINATION WITH EVERYBODY KIND OF FREAKING OUT AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD LISTENING TO THAT, THEY MIGHT BE MORE INFLUENCED INTO CUTTING RATES A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN THEY WOULD.

I THINK THAT THEY WILL.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DROP RATES -- I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE FACTORING MAYBE A 4 PERCENTAGE REDUCTION.

I THINK THEY'LL GO A LITTLE BIT SLOW AND STEADY THIS TIME BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS WASN'TLE FALLING OFF A CLIFF.

I THINK IT WAS A CORRECTION.

>> THE FEDS, ARE THEY SIMPLY WAITING TOO LONG TO CUT POINTS?

>> THEY'VE DONE NOTHING RIGHT FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THEY KEPT RATES AT 0 FOR TOO LONG AND THEN SAID LET'S RAISE IT SO QUICKLY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CAUSE SOME COLLAPSES OF BANKS, AND THEN IT MADE IT WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T MOVE FROM ONE HOME TO ANOTHER BECAUSE THEY HAD THE GOLDEN HANDCUFFS OF BEING LOCKED INTO THE 3% MORTGAGE RATE AND NOW THEY'RE GOING FOR 7%.

IF YOU WANTED TO UPGRADE YOUR HOME YOU'D HAVE TO SPENDS AN EXTRA $100 GRAND JUST BECAUSE OF INTEREST RATES ITSELF.

THEY NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT THIS.

THIS WAS A GROUP OF FAIRLY PROMINENT ECONOMISTS AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED.

ALWAYS BETTER TO GO SLOW AND STEADY.

YOU DON'T WANT TO CAUSE UNCERTAINTY.

YOU WANT TO GIVE SIGNALS.

THAT ACTUALLY HELPS STABILIZE CHANGE AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.

>> HOW MUCH DOES THE FED WATCH -- I KNOW THEY WATCH INFLATION IN LIKE HAWKS, BUT AS FAR AS THE STOCK MARKET IS CONCERNED, HOW MUCH OF AN INFLUENCE?

>> I THINK IT'S NOT -- I THINK IT'S A SECONDARY INFLUENCE.

SO THE JOBS REPORT WOULD BE THE MAIN ONE.

THEN THE NEXT INFLATION IN REPORT WILL BE THE NEXT.

AND THEN THERE WILL BE SOME PRESSURE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE STOCK MARKET BUT FROM WHAT WE SAW, I'M EXPECTING -- I WAS EXPECTING ABOUT HALF OF YESTERDAY'S LOSSES TO COME BACK TODAY.

IT WASN'T QUITE THAT, BUT IT WAS CLOSE.

I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF NEXT WEEK WE RECOVER 3/4 OF WHAT WE LOST OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR DAYS.

JUST BECAUSE, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR SOME GOOD OPPORTUNITIES, AND I THINK SOME MONEY WILL COME BACK IN.

>> SO I'M HEARING A LITTLE BIT OF POO-POOING AS FAR AS RECESSION IS CONCERNED.

WHAT ABOUT A PRE-RECESSION?

ARE WE STILL ON THE PRESS BUSINESS HERE?

>> IF YOU DON'T JUST FOCUS ON THE STOCK MARKET AND LOOK AT EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE POINT WHERE I WOULDN'T PREDICT A RECESSION THIS CALENDAR YEAR BUT I THINK WE'LL HAVE A MILD ONE NEXT CALENDAR YEAR BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT IN ARIZONA I THINK WE'LL BE BETTER POSITIONED.

I DON'T THINK WE'LL SEE AS MANY JOB LOSSES.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEAL BUSINESSES THAT WILL -- IT'S DIFFERENT THAN LAYING PEOPLE OFF.

BUT EVERY RECESSION IS PAINFUL.

JUST SUSPECT AS BAD.

WE TYPICALLY OUT-PERFORM IT DURING GOOD TIMES AND BAD AND THAT INCLUDES RECESSIONS.

>> THE JAPANESE YEN IS STRONG, AND HAS NOT GOT EVERYONE ALL WORRIED.

IS IT IMPACTING THE REST OF THE WORLD?

IS THE REST OF THE WORLD IMPACTING THE U.S.?

>> IT'S BOTH.

BUT TO SOME EXTENT OUR ROADS STILL LEAD TO THE UNITED STATES.

AND I STILL FEEL LIKE WHAT HAPPENS HERE HAS THAT TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT TO OTHER COUNTRIES.

AND LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, YOU HAVE A RECESSION NOT JUST BECAUSE OF ONE MINOR THING BUT THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE BIG THINGS HAPPEN.

SO WE'RE AT ONE OR TWO MILD THINGS HAPPENING.

IF WE START TO SEE THE JOBS NUMBERS GO BELOW 100,000 AND YOU SEE INFLATION IN MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE DON'T SEE ACTION BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD, THEN WE MIGHT GET INTO THAT POINT WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE A MILD DOWNTURN.

>> BUT YOU EXPECT ACTION BY THE FEDS AND IF NOT A FULL PERCENT, PRETTY GUNG-HO HERE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

>> YES, I THINK SO, GUNG-HO FROM DOING NOTHING TO TAKING SOME ACTION.

A QUARTER POINT, HALF A PERCENT I THINK IS THE MOST THEY'LL WANT TO GO.

>> ALL RIGHT, JIM, GOOD INFORMATION.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>>> THERE IS A NEW WAY TO TREAT CHRONIC JOINT PAIN, AND IT INVOLVES GOING AFTER THE NERVES THAT ARE SENDING PAIN SIGNALS TO THE BRAIN.

IT'S CALLED JOINT DE-NERVATION.

AND HERE TO TELL US MORE IS ORTH PEEDIC SURGEON DR. JOSH HUSTEDT OF BANNER HEALTH.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> OKAY, JOINT DE-NERVATION.

>> IT'S GOING AFTER NERVES THAT GO TO THE JOINT INSTEAD OF REPLACING THE JOINT.

SO WE ADDRESS THE NERVES TO INTERCEPT THE SYMPTOM BETWEEN THE BRAIN AND THE JOINT.

>> SO IT AFFECTS THE NERVES ONLY AND NOT THE JOINTS.

>> EXACTLY.

>> THEY DON'T SUCH TOUCH THE JOINT?

>> ALL THE WORK IS DONE OUTSIDE THE JOINT.

WE'VE USED IT THROUGH VERY SMALL I SIGNIFICANCES.

WE ISOLATE THE NERVES THAT ARE GOING TO THE JOINT THEMSELVES.

WE ACTUALLY CUT THOSE NERVES.

WE TRANSFER THEM TO SURROUNDING MUSCLE.

IT ONCE WAS A SENSORY NERVE AND BECOME AS MOTOR NERVE.

AND YOU HAVE A RESPONSE CHANGE IN YOUR BRAIN AND MAKES IT SO YOU DON'T FEEL IT ANYMORE.

>> HOLY SMOKES.

LET'S SAY IF YOU'RE ME, AND NERVES ARE WRAPPED VERY, VERY TIGHT CIRCLE, I WOULD IMAGINE, AROUND THE KNEE.

>> THERE'S FOUR KNEE NERVES AND WE GO AFTER ALL FOUR OF THOSE WHEN WE DO A DE-NERVATION PROCEDURE.

>> WHEN DO YOU, THAT YOU SAID YOU WILL MOVED THE NERVES TO THE MUSCLE SURROUNDING MUSCLES.

MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT PAIN IS A REALLY GOOD WAY FOR YOUR BODY TO SAY YOU GOT A PROBLEM DOWN THERE, KNOCK IT OFF BUT NOW YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT SIGNAL ANYMORE.

>> IT CAN BE A GOOD SIGNAL OR ALSO A BAD SIGNAL.

IF WE KNOW YOU HAVE ARTHRITIS, IF YOU'RE A 20-YEAR-OLD PERSON AND YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE AN INJURY THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HEAL.

IF YOU'RE 85 YEARS OLD AND HAVE PAIN EVERY SINGLE DAY AND YOU KNOW YOU HAVE CHRONIC ARTHRITIS IT'S NOT SO HELPFUL ANYMORE.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TARGET TARGETED THOSE SENSORY NERVES TO TAKE AWAY THE PAIN.

THE BENEFIT OF THIS PROCEDURE THOUGH IS THAT IT LEADS TO POST INTERIOR NERVES IN TACT SO YOU DON'T LOSE THE ABILITY TO FEEL YOUR KNEE OR THE ABILITY TO USE YOUR KNEE, YOU JUST REALLY CAN'T FIND THAT PAIN SIGNAL THAT YOU'RE GETTING.

>> DO YOU LOSE ANYTHING THAT YOU -- WHERE WHEN YOU WAKE UP, YOU DON'T FEEL A PAIN ANYMORE BUT ALSO DON'T FEEL X, Y AND Z.

>> NO.

MOST PEOPLE MAYBE GET A LITTLE BIT OF SKIN SENSATION LOSS IN THE AREA OF THE INCISION BUT MOST PEOPLE WAKE UP THE DAY AFTER SURGERY AND SAY THAT DEEP SEEDED KNEE PAIN THAT WAS KEEPING ME BACK AND HOLDING ME BACK IS COMPLETELY GONE AND I'M ABLE TO NOW DO THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO DO AND MY KNEE IS FUNCTIONING REALLY WELL.

>> AND IT COULD BE ANY OTHER JOINT, NOT JUST THE KNEE.

IT WILL FUNCTION AS NORMALLY AS IF YOU WERE -- IF YOU WERE 85 YEARS OLD, IT'S NOT GOING TO FUNCTION THE SAME WAY AS IF YOU'RE 35, BUT IT WILL GO BACK TO THAT, HUH?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WE'VE DONE STUDIES IN THE HAND AND THE WRIST, BUT THE KNEE POPULATION IS JUST SUCH A HUGE NEED IN OUR WORLD TODAY THAT WE REALLY FOCUS SOME OF OUR MOST RECENT STUDIES IN THE KNEE.

>> HOW LONG A SURGERY IS THIS?

>> IT'S ONLY ABOUT 45 MINUTES.

>> REALLY?

>> WE USE A CAMERA TO GET INSIDE UNDERNEATH THE SKIN, AND MAKE A LITTLE THREE CENTIMETER INCISION ON EITHER SIDE OF THE KNEE.

YOU COME IN, OUTPATIENT SURGERY.

YOU GET IT DONE, YOU GO HOME THE SAME DAY, AND YOU'RE BETTER WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

>> SO IT IS OUTPATIENT, THEN?

>> YES.

>> WHO'S A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

AND NOT JUST THE KNEE, BUT ANY JOINT.

>> PARTICULARLY IN THE KNEE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT CANDIDATES FOR ARTHROPLASTY, FOR A KNEE REPLACEMENT, IT'S A GREAT PROCEDURE BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T QUALIFY IF THEY'RE TOO OLD, THEY'RE TOO OVERWEIGHT, THEY'RE TOO SICK OR GET A KNEE REPLACEMENT AND THEY STILL HAVE PAIN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS IN OUR SYSTEM TODAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T FAULT IN THAT CATCH-ALL BASIN OF GET AGONY REPLACEMENT.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE ARE TARGETING THE PROCEDURE FOR.

>> HOW LONG HAS THE PROCEDURE BEEN GOING ON?

>> IT'S ABOUT FIVE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING IT HERE IN ARIZONA.

THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF JOINT INNOVATION BUT WE'VE TAKEN THE HISTORY AND MODERNIZED IT WITH NEW TOOLS TO MAKE IT, FOR INSTANCE, TWO OF THOSE SMALL INCISIONS AND FIVE-YEAR OUTCOMES FROM MY PATIENTS HERE.

>> HOW LONG DO YOU KNOW AND OVER FIVE YEARS FORECAST YOUR PATIENTS, ANYTHING CHANGE?

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?

>> YES.

WE'VE HAD REALLY GREAT OUTCOMES.

I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT A PROCEDURE I DID BELIEVE IN.

WE DID 25 PATIENTS AND FOLLOWED THEM FOR TWO YEARS.

AND WE'VE JUST PUBLISHED THAT STUDY AND PLASTIC AND RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY, WHICH WE WERE REALLY PROUD OF, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IT SHOWS THAT THERE'S A REALLY GREAT OPTION FOR PEOPLE THAT MIGHT FALL THROUGH THOSE CRACKS, AND THAT THIS MAY BE A WAY THAT THEY COULD REDUCE THEIR JOINT PAIN AND REALLY INCREASE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

>> CAN YOU -- MEAN, CAN YOU DO THIS IN MORE THAN ONE SPOT ON THE BODY?

HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU DO THIS WITH THE BRAIN THING, WAIT A MINUTE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

>> OUR BODIES ARE AMAZING, AND IT'S FASCINATING THAT WE CAN DO IT IN MULTIPLE SPOTS.

OUR BRAIN HAS A SPECIFIC SPOT FOR EVERY AREA OF THE BODY, AND THERE'S AN AREA OF THE BRAIN THAT'S TARGETED JUST FOR THE KNEE, THAT'S TARGETED JUST TO THE HAPPENED, JUST TO THE WRIST.

THESE LITTLE TEENY TINY NERVES, 1 TO 2 MILLIMETERS, WE CAN TAKE AND TRANSFER AND CHANGE THAT RESPONSE.

>> THIS KIND OF SURGERY IS DONE FOR OTHER THINGS AS WELL, RIGHT?

JOINT PAIN, OBVIOUSLY IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT MAKING SURE THE NERVES DON'T DO THE DAMAGE.

OTHER PARTS OF THE BODY, OTHER PROCEDURES, TRUE?

>> YES.

WE DO A LOT OF NERVE WORK ACROSS THE BODY, FOR NUMBNESS, FOR INSTANCE, FOR STRENGTH AND MOTOR FUNCTION, WE'LL DO NERVE TRANSFERS.

BUT WE REALLY FOCUS THIS ON THE PERIPHERAL JOINT WHICH ARE MOSTLY IN THE HANDS, THE WRISTS AND THE KNEE.

>> AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE IDEA OF -- ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU'RE A RUNNER AND YOU GET THIS DONE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, HEY, I'M GREAT.

I'M GOING TO GO RUN, BUT ARE YOU HURTING THE JOINT WITHOUT FEELING THAT PAIN?

>> YEAH.

NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN YOU NORMALLY WOULD.

SO LET'S SAY YOU DON'T DO THIS PROCEDURE, WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS?

YOU LIVE IN PAIN, YOU DON'T GET TO DO YOUR ACTIVITY OR YOU GET A CORTISONE INJECTION, WHICH ALSO TAKES AWAY THE PAIN.

SO WHAT WE DO AS ORTHOPEDIC SURGEONS IS TRY TO MAKE YOU BE ABLE TO LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT TO LIVE AGAIN.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE A LOT OF CHANGE IN THAT BECAUSE WE STILL KEEP THAT CLOSE.

THIS DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T GET A JOINT REPLACEMENT IF YOU NEED IT IN THE DEPUTY DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'VE GOT A JOINT REPLACEMENT AND CAN'T HAVE THIS PROCEDURE.

SO IT'S A TOOL IN OUR TOOL BOX TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE GET BETTER.

>> SO AN ARTIFICIAL KNEE CAN STILL NOT HAVE THE SAME NERVES IN AN ART INITIAL KNEE.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL KNEE POPULATION, EVEN THE BEST SURGEON HAS ABOUT A 20% OF THE POPULATION THAT'S NOT HAPPY WITH THEIR OUTCOME AND STILL HAVE PAIN.

A MASSIVE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES WILL DO ABOUT 1 MILLION JOINT REPLACEMENTS NOW, SUPPOSED TO GO UP TO 4 MILLION.

WE HAVE 20% OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT STILL HAVE PAIN AND WE DON'T HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR THEM, AND THAT WAS REALLY OUR TARGET POPULATION WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THIS AND WE STARTED STUDYING IT, IS HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT POPULATION AND TRY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE BEST OUTCOME THEY CAN HAVE.

>> GET AN ANSWER FOR JOINT PAIN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, DOCTOR, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE SURGERY.

SOUNDS FANTASTIC, MUST BE VERY REWARDING.

THANKS SO MUCH.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>>> THE MUSEUM OF TEMPORARY ART IS PARTICIPATE BE WITH THE ANDY WARHOL FOUNDATION FOR A MUSEUM FUNDRAISER INVOLVED IN THE SALE OF FOUR ARTWORKS BY WARHOL, THEY RANGE FROM A $250 POSTER TO A $20,000 SCREEN PRINT JENNIFER, YOU SELL THEM TO FUND THE MUSEUM, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

THE ANDY WARHOL FOUNDATION FOR VISUAL ARTS IS BASED IN NEW YORK.

THEY'RE A VERY GENEROUS FOUNDATION FOR ARTIST-CENTERED ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SMOKA AND WE REALLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ARTISTS, WHAT'S GOOD FOR ARTISTS, PROVIDING THEM OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO AS A GRANTEE, THEY OFFERED THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE.

WE'RE A CURRENT GRANTEE, THEY FUNDED US FOR TWO YEARS TO SUPPORT OUR EXHIBITIONS AT SCOTTSDALE MUSEUM OF CONTEMPORARY ART.

>> THEY GIVE YOU FOUR PIECES OF ART AND SAY SELL THEM AS BEST YOU CAN AND USE THEM DIRECTLY TO SMOCA, TRUE?

>> YES.

THEY HAVE A SITE ON EBAY FOR CHARITY.

WE HAVE A LANDING PAGE, SCOTTSDALE MOCA.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE FOUR ARTWORKS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

FOR OUR AUDIENCES HERE, OBVIOUSLY I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU BUY THOSE FOUR ARTWORKS, NOT FROM ANOTHER ORGANIZATION.

THERE'S 74 ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS NEW INITIATIVE.

>> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE ARTWORK HERE AND GET THE FIRST ONE UP HERE AND FIGURE OUT -- THIS IS THE WRAPPING PAPER, RIGHT?

>> AHA.

THERE IT IS.

THE WRAPPING PAPER WAS PRINTED IN 1969.

WARHOL, AS YOU KNOW, IS A WELL-KNOWN POP ARTIST, SO REALLY EMBRACED THE KIND OF POPULAR MEDIUMS OF GRAPHIC DESIGN AND SCREEN PRINTING AND THINGS THAT WERE REALLY ACCESSIBLE.

SO THIS IS A CHANCE TO OWN A LITTLE SOMETHING OF WARHOL'S.

>> YEAH, I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD GET THE ATTENTION OF WHOEVER GOT THE GIFT IF YOU WRAPPED A GIFT WITH THAT.

>> PLEASE DON'T USE IT TO WRAP ANYTHING WITH.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE NOW AND SEE ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS WILLIE SHOEMAKER?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> WHO WAS ONE OF THE USA'S MOST WELL-KNOWN JOCKEYS.

BUT THE POSTER ITSELF IS FROM A JOINT EXHIBITION BETWEEN ANDY WARHOL AND LEROY NEIMAN THAT TOOK PLACE IN LOS ANGELES, 1971.

AND SO THIS THIS IS WHAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER AN ORIGINAL POSTER.

AND WARHOL, YOU KNOW, HE KIND OF PLAYED WITH THAT IDEA, WHAT IS AN ORIGINAL BECAUSE HE EMBRACED THE MULTIPLES.

HE WANTED PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO ARTWORKS, AND SO HERE'S YOUR CHANCE.

>> WHAT'S THE VALUE OF SOMETHING OF SHOEMAKER'S.

>> THIS IS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OF THE FOUR THAT WE HAVE.

$250 IS THE VALUE.

>> AND THE WRAPPING PAPER WAS?

>> ALMOST $3,000.

>> $3,000.

YOU BETTER NOT WRAP UP ANYTHING WITH THAT.

>> EXACTLY.

>> LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE AND SEE WHAT WE GOT HERE AS FAR AS THE -- THERE WE GO.

WE KNOW WHO THAT IS.

>> THE AMAZING MUHAMMAD ALI.

AND SAME EXHIBITION, SAME TIME FRAME, 1971.

I MEAN, THIS IS CONSIDERED VINTAGE.

A VINTAGE PRINT THAT WAS IN WARHOL'S COLLECTION.

AND THE ARTWORK THAT'S FEATURE IN THE POSTER IS ANDY WARHOL'S.

>> POSTER, WHAT SIZE?

>> REGULAR POSTER SIZE.

ALMOST 35 INCHES BY 21 INCHES.

>> SO YOU CAN GET A MUSEUM FRAME OR -- YOU CAN GET THAT DONE.

>> OH, I COULD GIVE YOU THE NAME OF A GOOD FRAMER.

>> AND THAT WAS WORTH -- >> THE SAME, ALMOST $3,000.

>> ALMOST $3,000.

AND WE'RE SAVING THE LAST ONE BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST VALUABLE.

AND THIS IS ONE THAT I RECOGNIZE.

IT'S BECAUSE OF THE COW.

AND TALK TO US ABOUT THIS.

>> PROBABLY ALMOST AS WELL-KNOWN AS THE INFAMOUS TOMATO CAN.

BUT THE COW IS A SILKSCREEN CREATED BY WARHOL, ALSO 1971.

THIS ONE IS VALUED AT $20,000.

>> $20,000.

WHAT'S THE TITLE THIS ONE?

>> THIS ONE IS TITLED "COW."

I WONDER IF IT WAS A BULL OR A COW, BUT I GUESS IT'S A COW.

IF ANDY SAYS IT'S A COW, IT'S A COW.

>> IT'S A COW.

>> HOW MUCH AGAIN?

>> $20,000.

>> OKAY.

BUT DON'T LET THAT STOP YOU FROM ANYTHING.

ALL OF THESE PROCEEDS GO BACK TO THE MUSEUM TO SUPPORT OUR EXHIBITIONS.

>> HOW BIG IS THIS ONE?

>> 45 INCHES BY 30.

>> ALL RIGHT, A BIG COW.

>> VERY BIG.

YOU GET TO HAVE LIKE A PART OF WARHOL, ONE OF AMERICA'S MOST WELL-KNOWN ARTISTS.

SO THAT'S A SPECIAL THING.

>> WHERE CAN PEOPLE FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THIS.

>> MOCA.ORG, UNDERSCORE SMOCA IS OUR INSTAGRAM CHANNEL.

>> ALL RIGHT, JENNIFER McCABE, CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS, ON GETTING GRANT AND GETTING IT DONE.

AND BEST OF LUCK.

>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.